Comments on: Ruby on Rails—todo list tutorial http://www.fuzzylizard.com/archives/2005/03/22/508/ Web development and design with a little VFX thrown in for fun Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:45:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Brad http://www.fuzzylizard.com/archives/2005/03/22/508/comment-page-1/#comment-5769 Brad Fri, 21 Jul 2006 21:16:25 +0000 http://www.fuzzylizard.com/archives/2005/03/22/508/#comment-5769 I agree, the author does get bored half way. It was very good for awhile then became a pastebin. I really didn't learn much. The code got super confusing. I agree, the author does get bored half way. It was very good for awhile then became a pastebin. I really didn’t learn much. The code got super confusing.

]]> By: Jake http://www.fuzzylizard.com/archives/2005/03/22/508/comment-page-1/#comment-597 Jake Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:23:08 +0000 http://www.fuzzylizard.com/archives/2005/03/22/508/#comment-597 Simple does not require a GUI. How can you say Linux hasn't gotten the GUI lesson followed by the best you've seen is Suns? Did you forget that Sun develops Solaris? Not wanting to hand code 20 or so fields is simply lazy, even by using a GUI you still need to configure each field. By "Simple" one means you do not have to do nearly as much to achieve the same results using Ruby on Rails. If your looking to drag and drop applications, stick with VBasic or Macromedia. Using a GUI/IDE to code applications limits you to the application you are using. Hand coding allows you to harness the power of your brain, and do anything you want with the code. Writing 10 or 12 files in a text editor is easy. Even more so when you use the keyboard commands as text editors were made for. Having 10 small files is more productive then one huge 400 line file. This is the problem with web development today. Those who teach themselves how to program using an IDE, who then can not program anything for the life of them using just a text editor. You don't fully understand how and language works and everything you can do with it. And I do not belive that all of the acronyms will go away some day. Each web application technology has it's high points and it's low points. No one platform will be best for all applictions, developers, and networks. Simple does not require a GUI. How can you say Linux hasn’t gotten the GUI lesson followed by the best you’ve seen is Suns? Did you forget that Sun develops Solaris? Not wanting to hand code 20 or so fields is simply lazy, even by using a GUI you still need to configure each field.

By “Simple” one means you do not have to do nearly as much to achieve the same results using Ruby on Rails. If your looking to drag and drop applications, stick with VBasic or Macromedia. Using a GUI/IDE to code applications limits you to the application you are using. Hand coding allows you to harness the power of your brain, and do anything you want with the code.

Writing 10 or 12 files in a text editor is easy. Even more so when you use the keyboard commands as text editors were made for. Having 10 small files is more productive then one huge 400 line file.

This is the problem with web development today. Those who teach themselves how to program using an IDE, who then can not program anything for the life of them using just a text editor. You don’t fully understand how and language works and everything you can do with it.

And I do not belive that all of the acronyms will go away some day. Each web application technology has it’s high points and it’s low points. No one platform will be best for all applictions, developers, and networks.

]]> By: g bruno http://www.fuzzylizard.com/archives/2005/03/22/508/comment-page-1/#comment-551 g bruno Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:28:09 +0000 http://www.fuzzylizard.com/archives/2005/03/22/508/#comment-551 I looked at the tutorial, involves writing 10 or 12 files with a text editot, not my idea of simple. By simple I mean like VBasic, or any Borland IDE on windows: drag & drop, date bound fields I dont want to hard code all my CRUD 20 or so fields. To repaat: "simple" must have a graphical IDE. That is the huge lesson that Linux hasnt got yet. The ONLY true simple web-development system I have seen so far is Suns Java Studio Creator. Sadly it isnt reliable on rowsets. It may work on tables, where there is a local cache of the table. Its amazing to me how Rowsets work fine from an application, even when the db is remote. But when you go 'web-based' Rowsets fail. One day the 500 acronyms around web-based will be a laughable historical relic. People will look back and say 'how did people ever get into that morass" "JSP JSF Struts Maverick WebWork SpringFramework skyway etc etc..." I will get back when I have tried the tutorial cheers Giordano I looked at the tutorial, involves writing 10 or 12 files
with a text editot, not my idea of simple.
By simple I mean like VBasic, or any Borland IDE on windows:
drag & drop, date bound fields
I dont want to hard code all my CRUD 20 or so fields.

To repaat: “simple” must have a graphical IDE. That is the huge lesson that Linux hasnt got yet.

The ONLY true simple web-development system I have seen so far is Suns Java Studio Creator.
Sadly it isnt reliable on rowsets. It may work on tables, where there is a local cache of the table.
Its amazing to me how Rowsets work fine from an application, even when the db is remote. But when you go ‘web-based’ Rowsets fail.
One day the 500 acronyms around web-based will be a laughable historical relic. People will look back and say ‘how did people ever get into that morass”
“JSP JSF Struts Maverick WebWork SpringFramework skyway etc etc…”
I will get back when I have tried the tutorial
cheers
Giordano

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